10 Pathological Liar Signs You Need to Know

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Clinically Reviewed by: Brittany Astrom - LMFT

Are you worried someone you care about is a pathological liar? Deception can be harmful, not just for the person lying, but for those around them. At OC Revive, we understand the complexities of dealing with individuals who struggle with this issue, often linked to deeper mental health conditions. Pathological liars can create a web of deceit that hurts everyone involved. Knowing the signs of a pathological liar is crucial in taking the first step towards help.

What is a Pathological Liar?

A pathological liar is an individual who habitually and compulsively lies without a clear motive or benefit. Unlike ordinary lying, where a person might deceive to avoid trouble or gain some definite advantage, pathological lying seems intrinsic to the individual’s personality, often manifesting regardless of circumstances. These lies can range from simple exaggerations to intricate fabrications, and the liar might believe their falsities so deeply that they convince not only others but also themselves. This behavior is chronic and can be destructive, leading to severe complications in the liar’s social, professional, and personal life. It’s important to note that pathological lying can often be a symptom of a deeper psychological issue or mental health disorder, particularly personality disorders. Identifying and understanding this behavior is crucial, as it’s the first step toward seeking appropriate help and treatment.

10 Signs of a Pathological Liar

Frequent Lying Without Apparent Benefit:

  • Engages in frequent falsehoods, even in mundane situations.
  • Lies seem pointless and sometimes serve no clear purpose.
  • Deception continues despite negative repercussions.

Lack of Remorse or Guilt:

  • Displays no regret when lies are uncovered.
  • Continues lying, undeterred by the hurt caused to others.
  • Rarely, if ever, confesses to lying, even when confronted with proof.

Lying Becomes a Reflex:

  • Lies effortlessly and on impulse.
  • Deception comes naturally, like a reflex.
  • Truth-telling seems more challenging than lying.

Elaborate and Detailed Lies:

  • Stories often contain intricate, unnecessary details.
  • Lies are crafted skillfully enough to seem true.
  • Creates elaborate narratives that are usually self-aggrandizing.

Defensiveness When Challenged:

  • Reacts negatively when lies are questioned.
  • Becomes confrontational or argumentative when challenged.
  • Attempts to discredit others to protect their deceit.

Manipulating Others Through Lies:

  • Uses lies to control others or situations.
  • Deception aimed at gaining sympathy, attention, or advantages.
  • Manipulates others’ perceptions to cast themselves in a favorable light.

Inconsistencies in Their Stories:

  • Over time, their stories break down or contradict.
  • Details change in retellings, revealing discrepancies.
  • Struggles to maintain consistency in lies.

Need for Constant Validation:

  • Lies to win approval, praise, or sympathy.
  • Requires constant affirmation and seeks to be the center of attention.
  • Deception often aimed at boosting their ego or status.

Changing the Subject Quickly:

  • Swiftly redirects conversations when truthfulness is questioned.
  • Avoids being cornered with facts or evidence.
  • Uses distractions to steer away from the topic of their lie.

Strained Relationships:

  • Has a history of troubled personal or professional relationships.
  • Loses trust of family, friends, and colleagues over time.
  • Relationships suffer due to continual deceit and manipulation.

Pathological Liars

Recognizing these pathological liar signs in someone you know can be disheartening. It’s not just about the lies, but the breach of trust and the emotional chaos that follows. However, understanding these signs is the first pivotal step towards intervention and seeking help. If these signs are familiar, it might be time to reach out for professional assistance.

Call OC Revive Today!

If you recognize these signs of a pathological liar in someone you love, it’s time to seek professional help. Dealing with a pathological liar can be emotionally draining and complicated, especially when other mental health issues are involved. At OC Revive, we specialize in dual diagnosis treatment, addressing both the lying behavior and the underlying mental health conditions. Call us today at 844-954-3890 for a consultation. We’re here to support you and your loved ones on the path to healing.

FAQs

Yes, with professional help and therapy, pathological liars can work on recognizing their behavior, understanding its consequences, and learning new, healthier communication habits.

Pathological lying itself isn’t classified as a mental illness, but it is often associated with mental health disorders such as personality disorders.

At OC Revive, we approach pathological lying with dual diagnosis treatment, addressing both the behavior itself and any underlying mental health conditions, through therapy, counseling, and support.

Pathological liars usually lie for a perceived personal gain and can control their lying, while compulsive liars lie out of habit and often do so for no reason at all, even when the truth is easier.

Pathological liars are capable of telling the truth, but their lying is often impulsive and used as a mechanism to protect their self-image or manipulate situations to their advantage.

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April 5th, 2010 is a date that Tyler and his family hold dear. On that date, Tyler enrolled in a 4-month treatment program which laid the foundation for his recovery. With the help of treatment professionals, supportive friends and family, Tyler was able to build a better version of himself. This started with slowly building his self-esteem, and growing a community of peers to support him throughout recovery.

In 2011,with the desire to help others struggling with addiction, he decided to start working in the addiction field. Tyler obtained his CADAC || Counselor certification and graduated from Cal Sate University of Long Beach with a degree in Health Care Administration. Since then, Tyler has worked all areas of treatment starting as a detox technician and working his way up to Program Director. Today, Tyler feels blessed and grateful for getting a second chanse at life. He has a great relationship with his family, is happily married and has a great group of friends. Once a lost teen, Tyler now has purpose and passion. He’s dedicated his life’s work to helping teens and their families. As the Founder, Tyler Michaelis is confident that OC Revive will renew the lives of struggling teens while bringing back hope to their families

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Tyler is dedicated to providing the highest quality of care to teens and their families. Once a teenager that struggled with addiction, mental health, and poor choices, Tyler is aware of the growing demand and need for early intervention in adolescents and young adults. Growing up in Orange County, he battled addiction and peer pressure all throughout high school and during his time at Saddleback College. During those troubled years, Tyler’s parents and family were emotionally drained and heavily impacted by his addiction. Unfortunately, they did not know where to turn for help nor did they have the courage to set boundaries with him.After 7 painful years, they finally forced Tyler out of the house and into treatment at the age of 23.

April 5th, 2010 is a date that Tyler and his family hold dear. On that date, Tyler enrolled in a 4-month treatment program which laid the foundation for his recovery. With the help of treatment professionals, supportive friends and family, Tyler was able to build a better version of himself. This started with slowly building his self-esteem, and growing a community of peers to support him throughout recovery.

In 2011,with the desire to help others struggling with addiction, he decided to start working in the addiction field. Tyler obtained his CADAC || Counselor certification and graduated from Cal Sate University of Long Beach with a degree in Health Care Administration. Since then, Tyler has worked all areas of treatment starting as a detox technician and working his way up to Program Director. Today, Tyler feels blessed and grateful for getting a second chanse at life. He has a great relationship with his family, is happily married and has a great group of friends. Once a lost teen, Tyler now has purpose and passion. He’s dedicated his life’s work to helping teens and their families. As the Founder, Tyler Michaelis is confident that OC Revive will renew the lives of struggling teens while bringing back hope to their families